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		<title>By: Sam Kirkland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Kirkland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geri:

I think you&#039;re wrong on that one.  Siedah Garrett, a colleague and musician, who worked with Quincy Jones wrote &quot;Man In The Mirror&quot; - because they needed additional content for the &quot;Bad&quot; project.
It would be great if the conversational quote between Trump and Jackson was really true - however it really was the case of a woman being asked to get the job done and the rest is herstory!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geri:</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re wrong on that one.  Siedah Garrett, a colleague and musician, who worked with Quincy Jones wrote &#8220;Man In The Mirror&#8221; &#8211; because they needed additional content for the &#8220;Bad&#8221; project.<br />
It would be great if the conversational quote between Trump and Jackson was really true &#8211; however it really was the case of a woman being asked to get the job done and the rest is herstory!
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhhhh......&quot;We The People&quot;

Last November, I was extremely excited about the electoral results for the presidency. Although I live in rural central Virginia, I was unafraid of the criticism I&#039;d take for my ardent, vocal support for BHO. I was proud of &#039;my&#039; state voting a Democrat into office. Not that I consider myself a Democrat, rather, the term independent suits me much better. However, GWB and anyone inclined to be &#039;about his business&#039; needed to be on the losing side of the election. I was euphoric in BHO&#039;s victory. Now, barely 9 months later, it saddens me to say this......I am now equally euphoric with the election results both here in Va, and in NJ.
Mr. President, I say to you, &quot;Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.&quot; There will not be a second chance to fool me, or my brothers and sisters who believe in this country, the Constitution it was founded on, and the leanings of my hero, Thomas Jefferson. Look out, 2010. More lessons to be learned by many politicians yet to come......365 more days and counting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhhhh&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;We The People&#8221;</p>
<p>Last November, I was extremely excited about the electoral results for the presidency. Although I live in rural central Virginia, I was unafraid of the criticism I&#8217;d take for my ardent, vocal support for BHO. I was proud of &#8216;my&#8217; state voting a Democrat into office. Not that I consider myself a Democrat, rather, the term independent suits me much better. However, GWB and anyone inclined to be &#8216;about his business&#8217; needed to be on the losing side of the election. I was euphoric in BHO&#8217;s victory. Now, barely 9 months later, it saddens me to say this&#8230;&#8230;I am now equally euphoric with the election results both here in Va, and in NJ.<br />
Mr. President, I say to you, &#8220;Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.&#8221; There will not be a second chance to fool me, or my brothers and sisters who believe in this country, the Constitution it was founded on, and the leanings of my hero, Thomas Jefferson. Look out, 2010. More lessons to be learned by many politicians yet to come&#8230;&#8230;365 more days and counting.
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		<title>By: Katherine Crowley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine Crowley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, thanks for the humor. 

Second, it is so interesting that, under duress, a natural human reaction is to point and blame. (it&#039;s called &quot;anger &amp; blame&quot; in the grief cycle)

One of the refreshing aspects of this &quot;new economy&quot; is the fact that we all have to pony up and take responsibility for shaping our individual, community, and national futures.

It could be exciting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, thanks for the humor. </p>
<p>Second, it is so interesting that, under duress, a natural human reaction is to point and blame. (it&#8217;s called &#8220;anger &amp; blame&#8221; in the grief cycle)</p>
<p>One of the refreshing aspects of this &#8220;new economy&#8221; is the fact that we all have to pony up and take responsibility for shaping our individual, community, and national futures.</p>
<p>It could be exciting
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		<title>By: DanMulhern</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanMulhern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vanessa,
I followed your link to the Mitch Albom show, listened to it, and found your message to be misleading. The G did talk about the teabag people, but it was not in reference to you as you seemed to imply, and it was hardly &quot;derisive&quot; either.  She was taking them to task in a very calm and analytical manner for a policy position she finds short-sighted.  
It&#039;s remarkable to me that you began this thing with criticism of my list as being imbalanced, and then you wrote something that&#039;s even more so.  Note that Jim&#039;s comment above picks up on your &quot;derisive&quot; charge, repeating your initial falsehood.  That&#039;s disturbing.  
Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vanessa,<br />
I followed your link to the Mitch Albom show, listened to it, and found your message to be misleading. The G did talk about the teabag people, but it was not in reference to you as you seemed to imply, and it was hardly &#8220;derisive&#8221; either.  She was taking them to task in a very calm and analytical manner for a policy position she finds short-sighted.<br />
It&#8217;s remarkable to me that you began this thing with criticism of my list as being imbalanced, and then you wrote something that&#8217;s even more so.  Note that Jim&#8217;s comment above picks up on your &#8220;derisive&#8221; charge, repeating your initial falsehood.  That&#8217;s disturbing.<br />
Dan
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		<title>By: TIP Lady</title>
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		<dc:creator>TIP Lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant!

Wish I had read this before I responded to an editorial in the Oakland Press.

WE are THEY WHO!!

Let&#039;s quit the Blame Game!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant!</p>
<p>Wish I had read this before I responded to an editorial in the Oakland Press.</p>
<p>WE are THEY WHO!!</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s quit the Blame Game!
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vanessa,

If the Governor made the comment about teabaggers, I am right there with her. That was a love tap  compared to what the  teabaggers and the anti tax and anti government crowd say about her on a daily basis. The malicious and defaming things that are said about her are inexcusable. But one can only look at the personality types coming from that amalgamation of in your face activists and it&#039;s understandable that such derisive remarks suggest the literacy levels  among our populace is a factor of our country&#039;s decline in educational achievement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vanessa,</p>
<p>If the Governor made the comment about teabaggers, I am right there with her. That was a love tap  compared to what the  teabaggers and the anti tax and anti government crowd say about her on a daily basis. The malicious and defaming things that are said about her are inexcusable. But one can only look at the personality types coming from that amalgamation of in your face activists and it&#8217;s understandable that such derisive remarks suggest the literacy levels  among our populace is a factor of our country&#8217;s decline in educational achievement.
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to disagree with you but the spending in Washington and the mismanagement of this country preceeded the Current President and Congress. Do you think Regan made a dent to reduce spending?

The financial mess we are in was carefully and deliberately crafted by the boys from the South, West and Southwest.

GW blew the surplus left to him by Clinton
GW insisted on invading Iraq at a cost that no one can estimate and we canot get out of because the Bush Doctrine so destabiized the Middle East

GW cut medicaid funding to the States
Created unfunded mandates the states had to pick up

Did nothing to stop illegal immigration
Had and encouraged an economic policy  that resulted in the loss of thousands of American Jobs both Hourly and Salaried

Did the best he could to suppress the increase in the minimum wage which hadn&#039;t been raised for more than Ten years

Consistently ran gigantic trade deficits and fed misinformation to the American Public,

Remember the Uranium that Sadamm Hussein was collecting to build WMD&#039;s

All of the above  that was supported by the Republican party. 

So I wish you well as you cast your ballot.
As with All State you will be in good hands until they raise your rates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to disagree with you but the spending in Washington and the mismanagement of this country preceeded the Current President and Congress. Do you think Regan made a dent to reduce spending?</p>
<p>The financial mess we are in was carefully and deliberately crafted by the boys from the South, West and Southwest.</p>
<p>GW blew the surplus left to him by Clinton<br />
GW insisted on invading Iraq at a cost that no one can estimate and we canot get out of because the Bush Doctrine so destabiized the Middle East</p>
<p>GW cut medicaid funding to the States<br />
Created unfunded mandates the states had to pick up</p>
<p>Did nothing to stop illegal immigration<br />
Had and encouraged an economic policy  that resulted in the loss of thousands of American Jobs both Hourly and Salaried</p>
<p>Did the best he could to suppress the increase in the minimum wage which hadn&#8217;t been raised for more than Ten years</p>
<p>Consistently ran gigantic trade deficits and fed misinformation to the American Public,</p>
<p>Remember the Uranium that Sadamm Hussein was collecting to build WMD&#8217;s</p>
<p>All of the above  that was supported by the Republican party. </p>
<p>So I wish you well as you cast your ballot.<br />
As with All State you will be in good hands until they raise your rates.
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony,

I enjoyed your comments about researching the purchase of vehicles on many of the criteria you highlihgted.

I did that religiously. Then I stopped. The Reason: I have been purchasing or leasing Ford Products for over 25 years. All of the news that has broken recently about the quality coming out of the Glass House in Dearborn does not surprise me at all. I could and did tell anyone I could about the quality of Ford Products. While I have no clue what the exeriences of others may have been, I can only relate to my own. Why it took auto critics over 20 years to discover what a great product Ford manufactures makes me suspicious of why they were so quite on their recognition in years past. In fact, I strongly believe that the American Auto Companies have never made a better product than they do now since the 1940&#039;s. Even Chrysler shich is being trashed about it&#039;s quality probably hasn&#039;t manufacutred products this good since the 2nd World War.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony,</p>
<p>I enjoyed your comments about researching the purchase of vehicles on many of the criteria you highlihgted.</p>
<p>I did that religiously. Then I stopped. The Reason: I have been purchasing or leasing Ford Products for over 25 years. All of the news that has broken recently about the quality coming out of the Glass House in Dearborn does not surprise me at all. I could and did tell anyone I could about the quality of Ford Products. While I have no clue what the exeriences of others may have been, I can only relate to my own. Why it took auto critics over 20 years to discover what a great product Ford manufactures makes me suspicious of why they were so quite on their recognition in years past. In fact, I strongly believe that the American Auto Companies have never made a better product than they do now since the 1940&#8217;s. Even Chrysler shich is being trashed about it&#8217;s quality probably hasn&#8217;t manufacutred products this good since the 2nd World War.
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

First let me begin by stating that Keenan Thompson of SNL (I hope I spelled his first name correctly) is hilarious regardless of who he portratys.

Secondly, a leader has to have clearly defined goals and a system of achieving those objectives. This is something I know you have covered either in this blog or in your book and I&#039;m sure you have highlighted in your presentations on leadership.

Furthermore, I believe a leader can have clearly defined goals that strive to achieve a positive outcome such as those eneavors pursued by Governor Granholm or a leader can have clearly defined goals that are pursued to achieve negative outcomes for the sole purpose of promoting indvidually or collectively selfish objetives. The Governor&#039;s opponents in the legislature who are willing to trash the common good come to mind.However clear the goals, one has to have vision that goes beyond the attainment of those objectivesbeing sought. Dwight Eishenhower had clear goals of the strategy he devised with the Alies to Invade Europe but he had to develop a a military and political  vision 
even with his adversaries who were part of the allied effort. No, the Governor cannot 
change the  difficult siutation  she inherited in 8yrs, but all parties to this crisis have to develop a common  and innovative vision to combat this economic war we in Michigan are fighting instead of hunkering down to pursue goals and platforms that have a facutal history of failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>First let me begin by stating that Keenan Thompson of SNL (I hope I spelled his first name correctly) is hilarious regardless of who he portratys.</p>
<p>Secondly, a leader has to have clearly defined goals and a system of achieving those objectives. This is something I know you have covered either in this blog or in your book and I&#8217;m sure you have highlighted in your presentations on leadership.</p>
<p>Furthermore, I believe a leader can have clearly defined goals that strive to achieve a positive outcome such as those eneavors pursued by Governor Granholm or a leader can have clearly defined goals that are pursued to achieve negative outcomes for the sole purpose of promoting indvidually or collectively selfish objetives. The Governor&#8217;s opponents in the legislature who are willing to trash the common good come to mind.However clear the goals, one has to have vision that goes beyond the attainment of those objectivesbeing sought. Dwight Eishenhower had clear goals of the strategy he devised with the Alies to Invade Europe but he had to develop a a military and political  vision<br />
even with his adversaries who were part of the allied effort. No, the Governor cannot<br />
change the  difficult siutation  she inherited in 8yrs, but all parties to this crisis have to develop a common  and innovative vision to combat this economic war we in Michigan are fighting instead of hunkering down to pursue goals and platforms that have a facutal history of failure.
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		<title>By: DanMulhern</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanMulhern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cathy,
Does this mean that the Bd was the problem?  I mean, people could fight their way &quot;up&quot;stream to the top.  But presumably if the board acted in a more courageous way then it would percolate down, no?  
I like the elegance of the idea of gravity - the natural inclination of progressive and inclusive leadership at the top is for that to cascade downward.  On the other hand, managing up takes effort at every level.  Hmmmm.
Your thoughts?
Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cathy,<br />
Does this mean that the Bd was the problem?  I mean, people could fight their way &#8220;up&#8221;stream to the top.  But presumably if the board acted in a more courageous way then it would percolate down, no?<br />
I like the elegance of the idea of gravity &#8211; the natural inclination of progressive and inclusive leadership at the top is for that to cascade downward.  On the other hand, managing up takes effort at every level.  Hmmmm.<br />
Your thoughts?<br />
Dan
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		<title>By: DanMulhern</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanMulhern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick,
There is a simplicity to this articulation that I love.  I agree that we have sheltered an awful lot of folks from an awful lot of stuff.  

On the other hand our world is so much more complex.  I suspect that Obama&#039;s (and Bush&#039;s) &quot;bailout&quot; of the capital markets really was hugely necesssary.  And given the economic &quot;emergency,&quot; the storm that hit the autos, I think total collapse of GM and Chrysler was probably right.  It sure has helped us here in Michigan.

Not sure how we articulate a balance there.

D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,<br />
There is a simplicity to this articulation that I love.  I agree that we have sheltered an awful lot of folks from an awful lot of stuff.  </p>
<p>On the other hand our world is so much more complex.  I suspect that Obama&#8217;s (and Bush&#8217;s) &#8220;bailout&#8221; of the capital markets really was hugely necesssary.  And given the economic &#8220;emergency,&#8221; the storm that hit the autos, I think total collapse of GM and Chrysler was probably right.  It sure has helped us here in Michigan.</p>
<p>Not sure how we articulate a balance there.</p>
<p>D.
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		<title>By: Cathy Raines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy Raines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m reminded of a story a friend tells of doing management training at a company. He was working with a group of mid-level managers and they complained that when they had good ideas &quot;they&quot; wouldn&#039;t let them go forward. &quot;Who is &#039;they&#039;?&quot; Management at the next level up. As my friend trained the next level and the next level higher, he heard the same thing at every level. 
Then he met with the board of directors -- and, not surprisingly, he heard the same thing there! 
Having told that story, I also recommend at least browsing through a book called &quot;The Courageous Follower&quot; by Ira Chaleff. The title gives a good idea of the content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reminded of a story a friend tells of doing management training at a company. He was working with a group of mid-level managers and they complained that when they had good ideas &#8220;they&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t let them go forward. &#8220;Who is &#8216;they&#8217;?&#8221; Management at the next level up. As my friend trained the next level and the next level higher, he heard the same thing at every level.<br />
Then he met with the board of directors &#8212; and, not surprisingly, he heard the same thing there!<br />
Having told that story, I also recommend at least browsing through a book called &#8220;The Courageous Follower&#8221; by Ira Chaleff. The title gives a good idea of the content.
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		<title>By: Kate Mulhern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Mulhern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, if only we could go back to the days of the polis, when participation in the reasoned discussions of political community was a prerequisite to citizenship!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, if only we could go back to the days of the polis, when participation in the reasoned discussions of political community was a prerequisite to citizenship!
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dan -

Great conversation starter.

For me, it conjures up one of my dad&#039;s frequent sayings &quot;It takes you kids five seconds to break something, and it takes me three hours to fix it!&quot;  Now that I am a father myself, I see the frustration and the wisdom first hand.

Perhaps the problem is not all the fixing that needs to be done, but rather we need to spend less energy breaking stuff.  

We started this country with a concept that the government should stay out of people&#039;s business, and protect those (and that - such as the environment) that did not have the wherewithal to protect themselves. Maintain a military to defend against foreign invaders.

Let people and groups of people (businesses) lead their lives, take risks, benefit or suffer consequences of those risks.  Let them self-organize to fund and hire (and fire) individuals to police their streets, manage their public facilities and teach their children.

No where in there is the concept that the government is charged with the task of creating winners and losers.  It seems that every time an individual tries to do that, they break something - and we know how long it takes to fix it afterward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dan -</p>
<p>Great conversation starter.</p>
<p>For me, it conjures up one of my dad&#8217;s frequent sayings &#8220;It takes you kids five seconds to break something, and it takes me three hours to fix it!&#8221;  Now that I am a father myself, I see the frustration and the wisdom first hand.</p>
<p>Perhaps the problem is not all the fixing that needs to be done, but rather we need to spend less energy breaking stuff.  </p>
<p>We started this country with a concept that the government should stay out of people&#8217;s business, and protect those (and that &#8211; such as the environment) that did not have the wherewithal to protect themselves. Maintain a military to defend against foreign invaders.</p>
<p>Let people and groups of people (businesses) lead their lives, take risks, benefit or suffer consequences of those risks.  Let them self-organize to fund and hire (and fire) individuals to police their streets, manage their public facilities and teach their children.</p>
<p>No where in there is the concept that the government is charged with the task of creating winners and losers.  It seems that every time an individual tries to do that, they break something &#8211; and we know how long it takes to fix it afterward.
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		<title>By: Vanessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your reply. Yes it is true and here is the link to the interview.  http://wjr.com/article.asp?id=%201557732&amp;spid=6526  
As an indepdendent voter who voted for the governor it struck me as uncharacteristic. My perception is the name calling has become acceptable and all I am trying to do is finally become active in the political process. Perhaps I am only supposed to be active if I agree with the powers that be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your reply. Yes it is true and here is the link to the interview.  <a href="http://wjr.com/article.asp?id=%201557732&amp;spid=6526" rel="nofollow">http://wjr.com/article.asp?id=%201557732&amp;spid=6526</a><br />
As an indepdendent voter who voted for the governor it struck me as uncharacteristic. My perception is the name calling has become acceptable and all I am trying to do is finally become active in the political process. Perhaps I am only supposed to be active if I agree with the powers that be.
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