Comments on: Tiger Woods and Conversational Leadership http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/2009/12/tiger-woods-and-conversational-leadership/ Mon, 06 Sep 2010 06:09:24 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Activadvocate http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/2009/12/tiger-woods-and-conversational-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-67139 Activadvocate Mon, 14 Dec 2009 01:46:12 +0000 http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/?p=762#comment-67139 I'm honored, Dan. As for your conversation with Mike Miller, I'm reminded of a conversation I had with a highly-qualified jobseeker after her recent job interview. She noticed that a former employee had come in to show off her new baby, and particularly asked to see the supervisor. "This is the kind of place where I want to work," the jobseeker observed astutely. It's the kind of place where the supervisor has shown so much respect and appreciation for the workers over the years, that former workers actually want to keep in touch! It's a surely a healthy workplace, to attract and retain top talent. I'm fortunate to work in one of those, too. I’m honored, Dan. As for your conversation with Mike Miller, I’m reminded of a conversation I had with a highly-qualified jobseeker after her recent job interview. She noticed that a former employee had come in to show off her new baby, and particularly asked to see the supervisor. “This is the kind of place where I want to work,” the jobseeker observed astutely. It’s the kind of place where the supervisor has shown so much respect and appreciation for the workers over the years, that former workers actually want to keep in touch! It’s a surely a healthy workplace, to attract and retain top talent. I’m fortunate to work in one of those, too.

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]]> By: Dan Mulhern http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/2009/12/tiger-woods-and-conversational-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-66871 Dan Mulhern Wed, 09 Dec 2009 01:33:05 +0000 http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/?p=762#comment-66871 Meryl, I'll have to pick that up. I think that one of the concepts that will spread in the 21st century is a Jungian notion of the Self. I think of it as that part of us that is most uniquely us and is at the same time transcendent, participating in something eternal and true. So many people learned about Freud's Ego, Id, and Superego. They should have been learning about Jung's collective unconscious, and his ideas about a more dyanmic and less mechanistic psyche. I appreciate your bringing the Self into the matter. I had not thought much about it the Self in terms of leading with your best self, but you are right. I mean some part of you that's not the least bit small, but willing to risk, to give first, admit first, forgive first, etc. Great to hear from you. I am hard at work but haven't forgotten about your project. I'd love an update from your end. D. Meryl,
I’ll have to pick that up.
I think that one of the concepts that will spread in the 21st century is a Jungian notion of the Self. I think of it as that part of us that is most uniquely us and is at the same time transcendent, participating in something eternal and true.
So many people learned about Freud’s Ego, Id, and Superego. They should have been learning about Jung’s collective unconscious, and his ideas about a more dyanmic and less mechanistic psyche. I appreciate your bringing the Self into the matter. I had not thought much about it the Self in terms of leading with your best self, but you are right. I mean some part of you that’s not the least bit small, but willing to risk, to give first, admit first, forgive first, etc. Great to hear from you. I am hard at work but haven’t forgotten about your project. I’d love an update from your end.
D.

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]]> By: Dan Mulhern http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/2009/12/tiger-woods-and-conversational-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-66870 Dan Mulhern Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:30:44 +0000 http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/?p=762#comment-66870 Activeadvocate, Thanks for a great entry - as often with yours, more enlightening than what I began the whole thing with. I was at Google today, having a conversation with Mike Miller, the Ann Arbor director, in front of a room full of engaged business leaders. One of the things that Mike said was most important to preserving their culture and empowering all the Googlers was the use of office hours. He tries to have an hour a day, where he's open to anyone who wants to drop in. Do they, I asked? In my experience sometimes well-meaning corporate structures like that tend to get old and ossify. Absolutely, he said. There are always people who will come by. I felt humbled by that - in too big a hurry to do "my" work, no doubt not helping others do "theirs" better. Of course, it's all "ours." Thanks again, ActiveA. I so appreciate your contributions. Dan Activeadvocate,
Thanks for a great entry – as often with yours, more enlightening than what I began the whole thing with. I was at Google today, having a conversation with Mike Miller, the Ann Arbor director, in front of a room full of engaged business leaders. One of the things that Mike said was most important to preserving their culture and empowering all the Googlers was the use of office hours. He tries to have an hour a day, where he’s open to anyone who wants to drop in. Do they, I asked? In my experience sometimes well-meaning corporate structures like that tend to get old and ossify. Absolutely, he said. There are always people who will come by. I felt humbled by that – in too big a hurry to do “my” work, no doubt not helping others do “theirs” better. Of course, it’s all “ours.”
Thanks again, ActiveA. I so appreciate your contributions.
Dan

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]]> By: Activadvocate http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/2009/12/tiger-woods-and-conversational-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-66868 Activadvocate Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:58:01 +0000 http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/?p=762#comment-66868 Maybe I missed the point, too, Dan. I thought you were talking about the power of conversation to build relationships. How many real conversations do Americans have in our everyday lives? Bosses dictating what will happen, what needs to happen, and when, without consulting those affected by the decision? Spouses having utilitarian exchanges about who picked up the dry cleaning and what are we having for supper? Parents dictating to kids: "Clean up your room! Wash your hands! Go to bed!" Card-carrying protesters outside the Capitol? Limited-character one-way Tweets about what we're doing at any given moment? These are not conversations!!! With more and more single-person (non-eco-friendly) households, more people talk to their pets than ever have a real conversation. Yet, oh, the power of real sharing of ideas and opinions and experiences to build relationships! And, oh, the power of relationships! In Christian scriptures, the first letter of John states that God is love. Perhaps that's the power of relationships--relationships built on conversation. I'm fortunate to attend Socrates Cafe, where we have a conversation among amateur philosophers once a week. There are whole books written on how structured conversations can resolve problems. Dynamic Governance, used by members of the Green Building Council, is a way to have an inclusive conversation, not the "Might makes right" of majority rules that we see in Robert's Rules of Order, and governmental units in our country. How many issues would be peacably resolved if we had real CONVERSATIONS instead of dueling monologues between the parties, with the media looking on and reporting every last bit of dirt and controversy they can find? A leader who says "I don't know" or "I'm not sure; what do YOU think?" is inviting conversation that can yield a vision from the front lines, the down-and-dirty-in-the-streets view, where the rubber hits the road, and that view tends to be inaccessible to the monkey that's highest up in the corporate tree if there's no conversation. Conversation is a powerful tool (even if I missed your main point). Thanks for sharing, and this on-line conversation, even though it tends to be serial monologues except for your responses, Dan. Maybe I missed the point, too, Dan. I thought you were talking about the power of conversation to build relationships. How many real conversations do Americans have in our everyday lives? Bosses dictating what will happen, what needs to happen, and when, without consulting those affected by the decision? Spouses having utilitarian exchanges about who picked up the dry cleaning and what are we having for supper? Parents dictating to kids: “Clean up your room! Wash your hands! Go to bed!” Card-carrying protesters outside the Capitol? Limited-character one-way Tweets about what we’re doing at any given moment? These are not conversations!!!

With more and more single-person (non-eco-friendly) households, more people talk to their pets than ever have a real conversation. Yet, oh, the power of real sharing of ideas and opinions and experiences to build relationships! And, oh, the power of relationships!

In Christian scriptures, the first letter of John states that God is love. Perhaps that’s the power of relationships–relationships built on conversation.

I’m fortunate to attend Socrates Cafe, where we have a conversation among amateur philosophers once a week. There are whole books written on how structured conversations can resolve problems. Dynamic Governance, used by members of the Green Building Council, is a way to have an inclusive conversation, not the “Might makes right” of majority rules that we see in Robert’s Rules of Order, and governmental units in our country. How many issues would be peacably resolved if we had real CONVERSATIONS instead of dueling monologues between the parties, with the media looking on and reporting every last bit of dirt and controversy they can find?

A leader who says “I don’t know” or “I’m not sure; what do YOU think?” is inviting conversation that can yield a vision from the front lines, the down-and-dirty-in-the-streets view, where the rubber hits the road, and that view tends to be inaccessible to the monkey that’s highest up in the corporate tree if there’s no conversation. Conversation is a powerful tool (even if I missed your main point). Thanks for sharing, and this on-line conversation, even though it tends to be serial monologues except for your responses, Dan.

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]]> By: dan http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/2009/12/tiger-woods-and-conversational-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-66859 dan Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:44:05 +0000 http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/?p=762#comment-66859 The Tiger story - now unavoidable - gets sadder by the second. I never thought I'd pray for Tiger, but today I do. I pray for the fallen tiger in all of us - least I know there's one in me. There's more than the hunt. --- Dan The Tiger story – now unavoidable – gets sadder by the second. I never thought I’d pray for Tiger, but today I do. I pray for the fallen tiger in all of us – least I know there’s one in me.

There’s more than the hunt.

— Dan

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]]> By: Meryl Runon http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/2009/12/tiger-woods-and-conversational-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-66856 Meryl Runon Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:40:15 +0000 http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/?p=762#comment-66856 David Whyte is brilliant. He captures the essence of soul-based living. I am particularly fond of Clear Mind Wild Heart. It describes a whole different approach to life... one most of us have been brainwashed out of. When you speak of leading with your best self, I think you refer to the Self he describes. When I speak of Speaking Strong, I refer to speaking from the Self he describes. David Whyte is brilliant. He captures the essence of soul-based living. I am particularly fond of Clear Mind Wild Heart. It describes a whole different approach to life… one most of us have been brainwashed out of.

When you speak of leading with your best self, I think you refer to the Self he describes. When I speak of Speaking Strong, I refer to speaking from the Self he describes.

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]]> By: Mick http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/2009/12/tiger-woods-and-conversational-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-66851 Mick Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:59:46 +0000 http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/?p=762#comment-66851 When I wrote the poem Flawed, a reader remarked that the story seemed incomplete and wondered how it ended. I thought about it, and pondered on the complex interaction between those we view as "perfect" and the ardent fans that help create that myth of perfection. Is there a price to be paid forprofiting from that perfection myth? Although we have been told that those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it, again and again, we build castles for those we consider perfect, and then we evict them when they prove to be just as human as the rest of us. There is, of course, a price to be paid, an often steep and unpleasant price for riding high on the expectations of fans and those who worship at the image of perfection. The higher one climbs the further one has to fall. It's more than Marley's chains, for he did not understand until after he was buried by old Scrooge. The meteoric rise and sometimes cataclysmic crash and burn of so many celebrities, should teach us something about perfection: It is a marvelous motivator and a grand goal, but anyone who thinks he has achieved it is a fool; an anyone who trades on his perfection is merely polishing his fool's gold. Mick Flawed, too When a perfect man, on a perfect day, Discovered his life had a tiny flaw, He greeted the flaw in his perfect way, Inviting his friends to see what he saw. He capered about in a perfect dance, And sang a glad song in his perfect voice. He sang: “At last, I have a perfect chance, To make a perfectly wonderful choice!” He placed the small flaw on his mantelpiece, In perfect balance with his grand decor. “And, at last I shall know the perfect peace — With joy I have never known before!” For, although he could talk, cry, sing and shout, He’d had nothing at all to talk about… His attitude changed when his friends came by, And they saw his tiny flaw on display. Some screamed in outrage, and others did cry: "Oh, how can you disappoint us this way?" "You were our idol, our role-model king; We held you up for our daughters and sons, And now you display this imperfect thing — A thing from which any perfect man runs!" Some media pundits made it a joke, And others called it a conspiracy. Some assumed he must be perfectly broke, And badly needed the publicity. He looked sad at how his flaw was received, But secretly, was perfectly relieved. When that perfect man, on that perfect day, Put his flaw on display for all to see, He knew there were legends he would betray, And myths he'd destroy almost perfectly. Though the myths were not his, he'd let them grow, And profited from perfection for sale; But now he had let his ardent fans know, Of the tiny flaw in his perfect tale. Rich, lonely, and tired, he had given in To impulse, and shared the truth of his lie; For he had discovered to his chagrin, That perfection's price, was simply too high To run away from, though he traveled far... For the gravy train has a baggage car. Mick McKellar December 2009 When I wrote the poem Flawed, a reader remarked that the story seemed incomplete and wondered how it ended. I thought about it, and pondered on the complex interaction between those we view as “perfect” and the ardent fans that help create that myth of perfection. Is there a price to be paid forprofiting from that perfection myth?

Although we have been told that those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it, again and again, we build castles for those we consider perfect, and then we evict them when they prove to be just as human as the rest of us. There is, of course, a price to be paid, an often steep and unpleasant price for riding high on the expectations of fans and those who worship at the image of perfection. The higher one climbs the further one has to fall.

It’s more than Marley’s chains, for he did not understand until after he was buried by old Scrooge. The meteoric rise and sometimes cataclysmic crash and burn of so many celebrities, should teach us something about perfection: It is a marvelous motivator and a grand goal, but anyone who thinks he has achieved it is a fool; an anyone who trades on his perfection is merely polishing his fool’s gold.

Mick

Flawed, too

When a perfect man, on a perfect day,
Discovered his life had a tiny flaw,
He greeted the flaw in his perfect way,
Inviting his friends to see what he saw.
He capered about in a perfect dance,
And sang a glad song in his perfect voice.
He sang: “At last, I have a perfect chance,
To make a perfectly wonderful choice!”
He placed the small flaw on his mantelpiece,
In perfect balance with his grand decor.
“And, at last I shall know the perfect peace —
With joy I have never known before!”
For, although he could talk, cry, sing and shout,
He’d had nothing at all to talk about…

His attitude changed when his friends came by,
And they saw his tiny flaw on display.
Some screamed in outrage, and others did cry:
“Oh, how can you disappoint us this way?”
“You were our idol, our role-model king;
We held you up for our daughters and sons,
And now you display this imperfect thing —
A thing from which any perfect man runs!”
Some media pundits made it a joke,
And others called it a conspiracy.
Some assumed he must be perfectly broke,
And badly needed the publicity.
He looked sad at how his flaw was received,
But secretly, was perfectly relieved.

When that perfect man, on that perfect day,
Put his flaw on display for all to see,
He knew there were legends he would betray,
And myths he’d destroy almost perfectly.
Though the myths were not his, he’d let them grow,
And profited from perfection for sale;
But now he had let his ardent fans know,
Of the tiny flaw in his perfect tale.
Rich, lonely, and tired, he had given in
To impulse, and shared the truth of his lie;
For he had discovered to his chagrin,
That perfection’s price, was simply too high
To run away from, though he traveled far…
For the gravy train has a baggage car.

Mick McKellar
December 2009

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]]> By: Mike Schlacter http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/2009/12/tiger-woods-and-conversational-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-66798 Mike Schlacter Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:30:56 +0000 http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/?p=762#comment-66798 Dan We in our society make people up to be who they are not, then they try to live up to it and suffer inside very much. All "idols" are one of those human beings whom are not perfect. We all try to do the best we can and others judge and paint nice pictures or ugly pictures of us and pat our backs or stab them. Leaders have a bit of humility and lead on even when knocked of the pretty picture easel. I have had leaders who were knocked off out of vengence and they still led from the floor position. That will truly demonstrate true leaders as idols or persons. Colin Powell is one of those taken advantage of, abused, dumped and he still is a leader of great integrity. Dan
We in our society make people up to be who they are not, then they try to live up to it and suffer inside very much. All “idols” are one of those human beings whom are not perfect. We all try to do the best we can and others judge and paint nice pictures or ugly pictures of us and pat our backs or stab them. Leaders have a bit of humility and lead on even when knocked of the pretty picture easel. I have had leaders who were knocked off out of vengence and they still led from the floor position. That will truly demonstrate true leaders as idols or persons. Colin Powell is one of those taken advantage of, abused, dumped and he still is a leader of great integrity.

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]]> By: dan http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/2009/12/tiger-woods-and-conversational-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-66786 dan Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:16:31 +0000 http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/?p=762#comment-66786 Thomas, See my comment below to Kathy. I'm really NOT writing about Tiger the Man at all. Dan Thomas,
See my comment below to Kathy. I’m really NOT writing about Tiger the Man at all.
Dan

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]]> By: dan http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/2009/12/tiger-woods-and-conversational-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-66785 dan Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:15:51 +0000 http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/?p=762#comment-66785 Kathy, I am afraid I made my point poorly, for I welcome and agree with what you have said, though you seem to see it as a criticism and not something I would appreciate. I guess my point was not that Tiger doesn't or shouldn't talk to people. I assume he does, and I agree that he should. (I also recognize he could literally spend his entire life signing autographs and engaging people. I don't expect that.) My point is that the GREAT people WE create - we, the media, we the worshippers (who often quickly become the condemners) are as you say people, who put their pants on one leg at a time. But to a 3 year old parents DO know everything. To a 10 year old that coach CAN do anything. To a worker, that CEO has all the answers. So, I am saying there is an affirmative obligation on the part of "big" people to get real. Tiger has been one of the most unreal figures we have ever created. I mean Tiger-the-Idol. I'm not writing TO Tiger or to have Rolex try to get real. I'm writing to us, to be like your father and grandfather, and to push across the boundaries to engage people. And to push so far that we make ourselves one of them in the most fundamental of ways - admitting we don't know. I appreciate your raising the point you have, and hope my response builds upon what you have written. Dan Kathy,
I am afraid I made my point poorly, for I welcome and agree with what you have said, though you seem to see it as a criticism and not something I would appreciate. I guess my point was not that Tiger doesn’t or shouldn’t talk to people. I assume he does, and I agree that he should. (I also recognize he could literally spend his entire life signing autographs and engaging people. I don’t expect that.)
My point is that the GREAT people WE create – we, the media, we the worshippers (who often quickly become the condemners) are as you say people, who put their pants on one leg at a time.
But to a 3 year old parents DO know everything. To a 10 year old that coach CAN do anything. To a worker, that CEO has all the answers. So, I am saying there is an affirmative obligation on the part of “big” people to get real. Tiger has been one of the most unreal figures we have ever created. I mean Tiger-the-Idol. I’m not writing TO Tiger or to have Rolex try to get real. I’m writing to us, to be like your father and grandfather, and to push across the boundaries to engage people. And to push so far that we make ourselves one of them in the most fundamental of ways – admitting we don’t know.

I appreciate your raising the point you have, and hope my response builds upon what you have written.

Dan

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]]> By: dan http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/2009/12/tiger-woods-and-conversational-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-66784 dan Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:07:33 +0000 http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/?p=762#comment-66784 Mike, As my son Jack would say, "True dat." I've been on the other end of that judgmentalism and it makes my skin crawl every time I see it - even when it's pointed towards people who are supposedly my "enemies" (e.g., Republicans or athletes who challenge my beloved Detroit teams). Perhaps I should have done a better job of distinguishing between Tiger-the-Idol and Tiger-the-Man (whom I surely do not know). I'm all for a "let he who is without sin, throw the first stone." Perhaps the new Information Age, which has made it less of an advantage for those who "buy their ink by the barrel" to have the last say every time. Maybe it's a time where people can stand up and say, "that's wrong to judge in that way." Mike,

As my son Jack would say, “True dat.”

I’ve been on the other end of that judgmentalism and it makes my skin crawl every time I see it – even when it’s pointed towards people who are supposedly my “enemies” (e.g., Republicans or athletes who challenge my beloved Detroit teams).

Perhaps I should have done a better job of distinguishing between Tiger-the-Idol and Tiger-the-Man (whom I surely do not know). I’m all for a “let he who is without sin, throw the first stone.” Perhaps the new Information Age, which has made it less of an advantage for those who “buy their ink by the barrel” to have the last say every time. Maybe it’s a time where people can stand up and say, “that’s wrong to judge in that way.”

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]]> By: dan mulhern http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/2009/12/tiger-woods-and-conversational-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-66782 dan mulhern Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:01:01 +0000 http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/?p=762#comment-66782 I had an off the record complaint that I mischaracterized Tiger and Accenture. The writer said Tiger actually converses quite a bit at events with Accenture, and that Accenture hardly portrays him as "flawless," but in fact shows him "adapting to challenge," recovering from accidents (as he's recovered from his knee surgery, and I might add, the loss of his father). Fair enough. I have cherry-picked an easy and timely example. I don't know Tiger, and he may be thoroughly conversant and down to earth. I know that BIG figures tend to have US freeze up; I remember meeting Aretha Franklin and stammering something that I immediately felt was totally inane, like "I love your music." I know when confronted by bosses, my usually quick tongue went dead. So, the point is not so much about Tiger, but about perceived bigger-than-lifeness. We see people as perfect or perfectly powerful, and Tiger with Rolex, Nike attire, etc., LOOKS the part of perfect execution. I'm just saying that these trappings put people at a distance, and great leaders work to bring them in close, in a human way. Presumably, Accenture has clients who say "I don't know," and my experience of that company is that many of their "high-priced consultants" have the integrity and love for learning to say "I don't know" when they don't. That is the big picture I was trying to convey. Create authenticity and intimacy, even when all the pressure is to look perfect and in control. When you don't know, say "I don't know." When I hit out of a trap, I usually wear as much sand as a wet kid at the beach! It's obvious that I don't know! With the Tigers of the world, they bear a bigger burden, when even their mistakes somehow get holed out for a birdie. I had an off the record complaint that I mischaracterized Tiger and Accenture. The writer said Tiger actually converses quite a bit at events with Accenture, and that Accenture hardly portrays him as “flawless,” but in fact shows him “adapting to challenge,” recovering from accidents (as he’s recovered from his knee surgery, and I might add, the loss of his father).

Fair enough. I have cherry-picked an easy and timely example. I don’t know Tiger, and he may be thoroughly conversant and down to earth. I know that BIG figures tend to have US freeze up; I remember meeting Aretha Franklin and stammering something that I immediately felt was totally inane, like “I love your music.” I know when confronted by bosses, my usually quick tongue went dead. So, the point is not so much about Tiger, but about perceived bigger-than-lifeness. We see people as perfect or perfectly powerful, and Tiger with Rolex, Nike attire, etc., LOOKS the part of perfect execution. I’m just saying that these trappings put people at a distance, and great leaders work to bring them in close, in a human way.

Presumably, Accenture has clients who say “I don’t know,” and my experience of that company is that many of their “high-priced consultants” have the integrity and love for learning to say “I don’t know” when they don’t. That is the big picture I was trying to convey. Create authenticity and intimacy, even when all the pressure is to look perfect and in control. When you don’t know, say “I don’t know.”

When I hit out of a trap, I usually wear as much sand as a wet kid at the beach! It’s obvious that I don’t know! With the Tigers of the world, they bear a bigger burden, when even their mistakes somehow get holed out for a birdie.

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]]> By: Thomas K. Burke http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/2009/12/tiger-woods-and-conversational-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-66781 Thomas K. Burke Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:52:30 +0000 http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/?p=762#comment-66781 Mick, Flawed paints a picture that this man can do no wrong, however, I see a continuation to the ending, and I would like to know what it is. I am sure it has an interesting ending. (Thumbs up) Thomas K. Burke Mick,

Flawed paints a picture that this man can do no wrong, however, I see a continuation to the ending, and I would like to know what it is. I am sure it has an interesting ending. (Thumbs up)

Thomas K. Burke

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]]> By: Larry http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/2009/12/tiger-woods-and-conversational-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-66777 Larry Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:25:25 +0000 http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/?p=762#comment-66777 hi dan i enjoy your weekly insights and often share them with others. i think you're right about the boss "humanizing" him/herself by admitting "i don't know" - how about next week's edition focusing in on what comes after "i don't know"? what does the boss say next? how does the problem get solved or the question answered? larry hi dan
i enjoy your weekly insights and often share them with others. i think you’re right about the boss “humanizing” him/herself by admitting “i don’t know” – how about next week’s edition focusing in on what comes after “i don’t know”? what does the boss say next? how does the problem get solved or the question answered?

larry

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]]> By: Robin http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/2009/12/tiger-woods-and-conversational-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-66774 Robin Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:07:17 +0000 http://www.danmulhern.com/wordpress/?p=762#comment-66774 Dan, I found RFL to be very interesting, except for the comparison to Tiger. I am an avid golfer so I'm familiar with his golfing excellence,but I've never considered him a leader in the sense that we all respect, and that you write about. People have trouble with Tiger because he never wants to be IN the conversation, he wants to golf & have his privacy at the same time. What he's finding out is that he can't, that he can't block the response to his human frailties. Maybe he'll figure out now that he can't be above the conversation. Dan,
I found RFL to be very interesting, except for the comparison to Tiger. I am an avid golfer so I’m familiar with his golfing excellence,but I’ve never considered him a leader in the sense that we all respect, and that you write about. People have trouble with Tiger because he never wants to be IN the conversation, he wants to golf & have his privacy at the same time. What he’s finding out is that he can’t, that he can’t block the response to his human frailties. Maybe he’ll figure out now that he can’t be above the conversation.

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